Falling Toward Apotheosis

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Episode 72: Falling Toward Apotheosis (Season 4, Episode 4)

Synopsis: In which Londo begins to enact his desperate plan, and the time has come to say farewell to the new Kosh.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0517651/?ref_=ttep_ep4

http://www.midwinter.com/lurk/countries/master/guide/070.html

Warning: eye-related body horror right up top. Of course, nobody ever reads these notes so hope you enjoyed that folks!

From David Sedaris’s “Santaland Diaries”: “Snowball just leads elves on, elves and Santas. He is playing a dangerous game.”

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A Kheldian from City of Heroes in “space squid” form:

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The Summoning

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Episode 71: The Summoning (Season 4, Episode 3)

Synopsis: In which the Vorlons strike back, G’kar endures, and there are many happy returns.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0517714/?ref_=ttep_ep3

http://www.midwinter.com/lurk/countries/master/guide/069.html


Room 101/Two Minutes Hate/Goldstein! Goldstein! Goldstein! - a very 1984-heavy episode this week (the book and film, not the sub-par Van Halen album).


Warning: Trek digression starting about 12 minutes in. Mostly slagging on TNG interior design and costuming nightmares.


Max the Cat appears briefly in the background at about 20 min.



Whatever Happened To Mr Garibaldi?

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Episode 70: Whatever Happened to Mr Garibaldi? (Season 4, Episode 2)

Synopsis: In which G’Kar falls into the hands of the Centauri and Captain Sheridan lingers between life and death.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0517723/?ref_=ttep_ep2

http://www.midwinter.com/lurk/countries/master/guide/068.html


It’s possible that the title of this episode is a nod to Alan Moore’s classic “Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow?” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superman:_Whatever_Happened_to_the_Man_of_Tomorrow%3F

Cats in sci-fi (includes movies which we weren’t examining, or Jonesy would definitely have been #1): https://www.geek.com/culture/the-12-best-cats-in-sci-fi-history-1693091/

As always, I flubbed the Tears in Rain reference: “I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die.”

Lord Baltar’s robotic assistant was, of course, Lucifer. Bit on the nose there, Larson. https://en.battlestarwikiclone.org/wiki/Lucifer



The Hour of the Wolf

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Episode 69: The Hour of the Wolf (Season 4, Episode 1)

Synopsis: In which everyone must come to terms with the loss of Captain Sheridan, and Londo is recalled to the Centauri Imperial court.


http://www.midwinter.com/lurk/countries/master/guide/067.html

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0517705/?ref_=ttep_ep1


February 2015 in New England. Thankfully we don’t have anything like that this year.


Season 3 Wrap Up

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TNotP Season 3 Show Notes


Episode 68: Season 3 Wrap-Up


Jon’s Top 5 Episodes:

5) War Without End

4) And the Rock Cried OUt, No Hiding Place

3) Passing Through Gethsemane

2) Severed Dreams

1) Z’ha’dum


Chris’s Top 5 Episodes:

5) Z’ha’dum

4) Interludes & Examinations

3) Passing Through Gethsemane

2) Severed Dreams

1) Point of No Return


Jon’s Bottom 3 Episodes:

3) Grey 17 Is Missing

2) Exogenesis

1) A Late Delivery from Avalon


Chris’s Bottom 3 Episodes:

3) A Late Delivery from Avalon

2) Exogenesis

1) Voices of Authority


Princess Allura was apparently a the pilot of the Blue Lion on Voltron: Defender of the Universe, which Chris hasn’t thought about in more than 30 years. Thanks, brain! (Brain? Brain? What is brain?)


Any fans wishing to show us their appreciation: https://www.amazon.com/MPC-Space-1999-Eagle-Transporter/dp/B01A7TPCNS



Shadow Dancing

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Episode 66: Shadow Dancing (Season 3, Episode 21)

In which Dr Franklin’s walkabout comes to an abrupt end and a major battle is fought against the Shadow fleet.


https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0517687/?ref_=ttep_ep21

http://www.midwinter.com/lurk/countries/master/guide/065.html


Crunchy Wheat! Nicely Sweet! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0e16Y9a9sE


Raw vfx shots from B5 season 3: https://vimeo.com/304310640/description?fbclid=IwAR3RPYEGVZ-YIn9aJjEwIjmvskiRoyknZMY-wffxaavOIifk6VxdHgS0ZA4


Moar ship porn. Rocket Science vfx for The Expanse (probably some spoilers): https://vimeo.com/300307277?cjevent=6e358e48fcdd11e8805b006f0a240614


Heat Miser and Snow Miser: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SGlPnA_iCk


Martin Stein’s death from Legends of Tomorrow https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Cmj4A_jLx8


Oliver and Diggle have it out on Arrow: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCHs5QHV-WA


Actresses who have played Catwoman, in order: https://www.popsugar.com/beauty/photo-gallery/24031780/image/24031787/Julie-Newmar

Does not include voice actors from animated features or Maggie Baird, who played Selena in the Birds of Prey tv series YES I WENT THERE!


And The Rock Cried Out, No Hiding Place

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Episode 65: And the Rock Cried Out, No Hiding Place (Season 3, Episode 20)

Synopsis: In which Sheridan and Delenn analyze the patterns behind the Shadows’ attacks and Londo moves against an enemy to gain power in the Centauri court.


https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0517628/?ref_=ttep_ep20

http://www.midwinter.com/lurk/countries/master/guide/064.html


Francois Giroday, who portrayed Minister Virini https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0320931/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_t16


How many licks does it take to get to the Tootsie Roll center of a Tootsie Pop? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvFzOgK-V9E


A Clockwork Orange and “Singing in the Rain” http://moviemezzanine.com/inglorious-bastard-the-horror-of-singin-in-the-rain-and-a-clockwork-orange/


Necross the (Ha Ha Ha) Mad -  I had to dig into my comics collection and take a pic of this page, it’s such a deep cut I couldn’t even find it on the internet anywhere.


The doctor from “The Cage” was Dr. Boyce http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Philip_Boyce  The actor, John Hoyt, was in the film “The Conqueror,” in which John Wayne plays Genghis Khan (woof! Not even going there!). Ninety of the film’s 200 cast/crew members contracted cancer afterward. And we thought B5 was cursed!

Grey 17 Is Missing

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Episode 64: Grey 17 Is Missing (Season 3, Episode 19)

Synopsis: In which Garibaldi hunts down a mystery, and Delenn faces a challenge to her leadership of the Rangers.


https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0517654/?ref_=ttep_ep19

http://www.midwinter.com/lurk/countries/master/guide/063.html


1990s Doomsday cults? I’m stayin’!

Branch Dividians  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Branch_Davidians

Aum Shinrikyo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aum_Shinrikyo

Heaven’s Gate - Tragic, and maybe our “favorite” UFO cult https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heaven%27s_Gate_(religious_group)

Order of the Solar Temple https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_the_Solar_Temple


Max the Cat shows up at about 13:30.


Duns Scotus, 13th century theologian and hair splitter quo maxime: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duns_Scotus


Eruv - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eruv



War Without End

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Episode 63: War Without End (Season 3, Episodes 16 & 17)

Synopsis: In which Jeffrey Sinclair returns and the fate of Babylon 4 is revealed.


https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0517721/?ref_=ttep_ep16

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0517722/?ref_=ttep_ep17

http://www.midwinter.com/lurk/countries/master/guide/060.html

http://www.midwinter.com/lurk/countries/master/guide/061.html


Do I need to lnk about Lucy and Ethel? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Love_Lucy


Creature Double Feature was a Saturday afternoon staple for those of us growing up in the Boston area in the 70s: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m--ayWTBWi0


Summaries of JMS’s intended original plan, where we can see what the show might have looked like had Michael O’Hare stuck around and get Sinclair all the way through, including the spin-off show Babylon Prime. Interesting stuff here, but lots of spoilers if this is your first time through the show. Bringing B4 forward to be the new station in the spinoff is similar to what Jon has discussed with a sequel show to B5, set 1000 years down the road.

http://www.republibot.com/content/hidden-evolution-babylon-5

http://www.republibot.com/content/hidden-evolution-babylon-5-part-ii-%E2%80%9Cbabylon-prime%E2%80%9D


Max the Cat makes a brief appearance at about 10:45. I know you’ve all been wondering what was up with him.


Seriously, you do not want to get Chris started on the history of the Legion of Super Heroes, particularly in the post-Crisis/pre-Zero Hour era.


The film Predestination is an adaptation of the story “All You Zombies” by Robert Heinlein and is the most brain breaking time travel I’ve encountered yet.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predestination_(film)


Looper is up there in the running though. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Looper_(film)


Star Trek’s “Tomorrow is Yesterday” is a great episode, setting aside maybe the bit about the ship’s computer being reprogrammed to be more “feminine.” http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Tomorrow_is_Yesterday_(episode)


DS9’s “Past Tense” http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Past_Tense,_Part_I_(episode)


Star Trek: Discovery’s “Calypso” https://io9.gizmodo.com/short-treks-dives-far-into-the-future-of-star-trek-with-1830339940 Chris is probably wrong here, I can’t find any evidence that Aldis Hodge’s character is actually joining the regular show, sadly.


Legends of Tomorrow is the most bonkers show on television.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqRZJgA_IqM



El Ministerio del Tiempo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Ministerio_del_Tiempo


Travelers season 3 drops in March 2019. Yay! https://www.denofgeek.com/us/tv/travelers/271433/travelers-season-3-release-date-news-and-more


Dark season 2 is currently in production http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/dark/news/a860226/dark-season-2-opening-scene-filming-starts/


San Dimas High School Football Rules!! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_%26_Ted#Bill_&_Ted_Face_the_Music_(2020)


12 Monkeys - the film, not the series, is also a great time travel mind bender: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15s4Y9ffW_o


Time After Time: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080025/?ref_=nv_sr_1

And Somewhere in Time: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0081534/?ref_=nv_sr_2


TNG’s “Parallels” featuring Riker with an even more glorious beard than usual http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Parallels_(episode)


Credo, the board game of the Council of Nicea. Complete Jon and Chris-bait. https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/1304/credo-game-dueling-dogmas


Aleph Mattresses. Not our sponsor...yet. https://trustaleph.com/


World of Warcraft’s Draenei: https://wow.gamepedia.com/Draenei



Walkabout

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Episode 62: Walkabout (Season 3, Episode 18)

Synopsis: Dr. Franklin tries to find himself, Sheridan tests the Shadows’ weakness, and we meet the new Kosh.


https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0517720/?ref_=ttep_ep18

http://www.midwinter.com/lurk/countries/master/guide/062.html


Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinners_in_the_Hands_of_an_Angry_God


Four hundred Vulcans cried out...and were suddenly silenced. http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/The_Immunity_Syndrome_(episode)


The Vorlon Ulkesh appeared in the novel https://babylon5.fandom.com/wiki/To_Dream_in_the_City_of_Sorrows


Jeffrey Willerth was the performer in the Kosh suit(s) https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0929790/

He seems to have been primarily a producer (and an Associate to Producer on B5) more than an actor/puppeteer, which makes the subtlety of his performance even more noteworthy.


Let the record show that I (Chris) did not buy into a new miniatures game while in California.


Three cheers for John Mundy!


Foundationism: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundationism


Cleverman https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleverman


Erica Gimpel: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0319826/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_t12


JMS apparently does have a text on Foundationism. I’d love to get a look at that.


JMS on religion in science fiction: https://techtv.mit.edu/videos/3608-j-michael-straczynski-on-themes-of-religion-in-science-fiction



Interludes and Examinations

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Episode 61: Interludes and Examinations (Season 3, Episode 15)

Synopsis: In which Captain Sheridan convinces Kosh to take a more active role in the war, and Mr Morden returns.



“The Back Nine” is a golf reference. Somehow I (Chris) always thought it was referring to the last nine acres of farmland you had left to plow. See the things you learn listening to podcasts, kids?



The Gaim’s helmet resembles the helmet worn by Morpheus, Lord of Dreams in Neil Gaiman's Sandman

The Baader-Meinhof Group https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Army_Faction and Baader Meinhoff phenomenon (aka frequency illusion) https://science.howstuffworks.com/life/inside-the-mind/human-brain/baader-meinhof-phenomenon.htm



The Symbionese Liberation Army https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbionese_Liberation_Army (“Symbionese” referring to symbiosis)


Canadian plan for preemptory US invasion in 1921 https://bigthink.com/strange-maps/in-1921-canada-developed-a-secret-plan-to-invade-the-us

Homer Simpson’s spirit guide was a coyote voiced by Johnny Cash. But Chris was conflating that with Homer’s guardian angel, who appeared to him in a form of Colonel Klink. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sM28sWT2pvU


SUGAR. DIRT. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wv7flH9oUcg




Ship of Tears

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Episode 60: Ship of Tears (Season 3, Episode 14)

Synopsis: In which Bester seeks Sheridan’s help in stopping the Shadows and G’Kar is brought into the conspiracy.


http://www.midwinter.com/lurk/countries/master/guide/058.html

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0517688/?ref_=tt_ep_nx


What We Left Behind - the Deep Space 9 retrospective documentary https://ds9documentary.com/


"Third Person: Authoring and Exploring Vast Narratives” by Pat Harrigan https://www.amazon.com/Third-Person-Authoring-Exploring-Narratives/dp/0262533790/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1541628420&sr=8-2&keywords=third+person


"Henry Gale" from Lost - his real name was Ben Linus (portrayed by Michael Emerson https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0256237/?ref_=nv_sr_1) Good lord I hated him.


"Brain, brain, what is brain?" Jon dropped some Spock's Brain on us and I didn't catch it. Not sure who is the more shameful in this situation.


Screen Memories - https://mysteriousuniverse.org/2016/01/the-messengers-ufos-owls-and-synchronicity/


There are many different types of possible subspecies of Grey aliens

http://hybridsrising.com/Hybrid-Project/Hybrids-Rising-The-Greys-HP.html



A Late Delivery From Avalon

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Episode 58: A Late Delivery from Avalon (Season 3, Episode 13)

Synopsis: In which a man claiming to be Arthur, King of the Britons, arrives on Babylon 5


http://www.midwinter.com/lurk/countries/master/guide/057.html

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0517617/?ref_=tt_ep_nx


Note: This episode was intended to go after “Sic Transit Vir,” which we will examine next week.


There are a lot of Monty Python and the Holy Grail references here, I’m not going to link them all. Same for the references to Arthurian lore and historical study.


I will however strongly recommend the “Arthur Dies at the End” series of retellings of Mallory’s “Le Mort de Arthur” by my (Chris) friend Jeffrey Wikstrom. Very funny and irreverent. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00LAKWHH8/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1


Do not get Chris started on stirrups in the movie Gladiator.


The “Camelot 3000: comics series: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camelot_3000


MASH’s finale, “Farewell, Amen and Amen” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodbye,_Farewell_and_Amen


Logan’s Run https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logan%27s_Run_(film)


The postal worker was portrayed by Michael Fagan. I was confused because he’s listed with a name in the credits, “Emmet Farquaha,” but I don’t think the name was ever spoken in the episode.


Attentive listeners may recall that the film Apollo 13 was beat out for a Hugo award in 1996 by the Babylon 5 season 2 episode “The Coming of Shadows.” JMS was certainly aware of the film.


The board game “This War of Mine” is a harrowing experience. Cannot recommend it enough. https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/188920/war-mine-board-game



Shoeless Joe: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoeless_Joe_Jackson



Ceremonies of Light and Dark

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Episode 57: Ceremonies of Light and Dark (Season 3, Episode 11)

Synopsis: In which the dust settles from the past few episodes and everyone gets spiffy new uniforms!


https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0517636/?ref_=tt_ep_nx

http://www.midwinter.com/lurk/countries/master/guide/055.html


Domo Arigato https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uc6f_2nPSX8


Halfway there: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDK9QqIzhwk


Suebi and Etruscans and Greeks, oh my! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_citizenship


In Our Time - the best history/science/culture/everything podcast out there: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006qykl/episodes/player


“People with terrible ideas often think they’re going to work.” - https://www.ilinxilinx.com/nameofthepod/


The Dollop podcast https://www.dolloppodcast.com/


Don Stroud: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0835144/?ref_=tt_cl_t13


“Tomorrow is Yesterday” is the classic Star Trek episode where the computer keeps referring to Kirk as “dear.” http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Tomorrow_is_Yesterday_(episode)


“Are we the baddies?” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hn1VxaMEjRU


Buck Rogers uniform:


An aside, but Gil Gerard (Buck) and Felix Silla (Twiki) are still friends and hang out. That feels nice.


https://vitalvegas.com/this-was-easily-our-weirdest-vegas-celebrity-sighting-ever/


And in conclusion YOGA PANTS ARE NOT PANTS. Come at me, haters!



Severed Dreams

Episode 56: Severed Dreams (Season 3, Episode 10)

Synopsis: In which everything hits the fan.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0517686/?ref_=tt_ep_nx

http://www.midwinter.com/lurk/countries/master/guide/054.html


Other Hugo nominees in 1997 for “Best Dramatic Presentation” were Star Trek: First Contact, DS9 “Trials and Tribble-ations,” Mars Attacks and Independence Day.


Max was particularly vocal this episode. Enjoy his dulcet tones.


Robert Foxworth’s treason is discussed by JMS in length on the Lurker’s Guide page, linked above.

Point of No Return

Episode 55: Point of No Return (Season 3, Episode 9)

Synopsis: In which the crisis with the Nightwatch comes to a head and Londo and Vir learn their destinies.


https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0517679/?ref_=tt_ep_nx

http://www.midwinter.com/lurk/countries/master/guide/053.html


The legendary Majel Barrett: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000854/?ref_=tt_cl_t12


Before her death, Majel Barrett’s voice was recorded phonetically so it is still possible we may get her voice for our phones! https://news.avclub.com/the-late-majel-barrett-might-still-voice-the-computer-o-1798251733


Star Trek Continues: https://www.youtube.com/user/StarTrekContinues


Emmanuel Goldstein and the Two Minutes of Hate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4zYlOU7Fpk


Messages from Earth

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Episode 54: Messages from Earth (Season 3, Episode 8)

Synopsis: In which Sheridan must take drastic action to keep President Clark from obtaining a shadow ship, and the Nightwatch steps up their operation on the station.


https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0517668/?ref_=tt_ep_pr

http://www.midwinter.com/lurk/countries/master/guide/052.html


Stove Top? I’M STAYING! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3T1dvaEY9CQ


The Ultra Menace Missile! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZAuNqHSEQk


The Shobijin from Godzilla vs Mothra: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stavnP7kcGU


Night Boat! The Crime Solving boat! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoV1-fsFCmw


The Reflex Gun! Another Star Blazers reference! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAA3bLM3IGA


Lyanna Mormont, baddest badass in the Seven Kingdoms. It is known. http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Lyanna_Mormont


Exogenesis

Episode 53: Exogenesis (Season 3, Episode 7)

Synopsis: In which a creepy bug/parasite thing appears to be possessing people and Ivanova tests Corwin’s loyalty.


https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0517649/?ref_=tt_ep_nx

http://www.midwinter.com/lurk/countries/master/guide/051.html


Samuel Taylor Coleridge was interrupted while writing Kulba Khan by “the stranger from Porlock” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Person_from_Porlock


Which led to Rush’s “Xanadu,” possibly my (Chris) favorite of their songs. If you’ve never heard it, can tolerate prog rock, and have eleven-odd minutes to spare check it out. I’ll be over here rocking out hard:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEuOoMprDqg


Aubrey Morris, this episode’s Duncan, appears as the Roman emperor in this episode of The Prisoner - “The Dance of the Dead.” Once you’ve watched that Rush video spend 40 minutes checking this out too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaCVzUy3KP4


Fantasy recasting of Marcus:

Chris - David Tennant: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0855039/?ref_=nv_sr_1

Jon - Richie Campbell: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1951953/?ref_=tt_cl_t2


Here’s our first pass at the prestige 10 episode breakdown for season 2. Much of this didn’t survive contact with the discussion we have in this episode but it was a starting point.

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The zones of total exclusion thing came from the French Zone Rouge, an area of France entirely incapable of supporting life because of damage from World War 1. Details: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zone_Rouge

And of course there’s a TV Tropes page as well (because of course there is). https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ForbiddenZone