Grey 17 Is Missing

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Episode 64: Grey 17 Is Missing (Season 3, Episode 19)

Synopsis: In which Garibaldi hunts down a mystery, and Delenn faces a challenge to her leadership of the Rangers.


https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0517654/?ref_=ttep_ep19

http://www.midwinter.com/lurk/countries/master/guide/063.html


1990s Doomsday cults? I’m stayin’!

Branch Dividians  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Branch_Davidians

Aum Shinrikyo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aum_Shinrikyo

Heaven’s Gate - Tragic, and maybe our “favorite” UFO cult https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heaven%27s_Gate_(religious_group)

Order of the Solar Temple https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_the_Solar_Temple


Max the Cat shows up at about 13:30.


Duns Scotus, 13th century theologian and hair splitter quo maxime: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duns_Scotus


Eruv - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eruv



War Without End

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Episode 63: War Without End (Season 3, Episodes 16 & 17)

Synopsis: In which Jeffrey Sinclair returns and the fate of Babylon 4 is revealed.


https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0517721/?ref_=ttep_ep16

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0517722/?ref_=ttep_ep17

http://www.midwinter.com/lurk/countries/master/guide/060.html

http://www.midwinter.com/lurk/countries/master/guide/061.html


Do I need to lnk about Lucy and Ethel? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Love_Lucy


Creature Double Feature was a Saturday afternoon staple for those of us growing up in the Boston area in the 70s: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m--ayWTBWi0


Summaries of JMS’s intended original plan, where we can see what the show might have looked like had Michael O’Hare stuck around and get Sinclair all the way through, including the spin-off show Babylon Prime. Interesting stuff here, but lots of spoilers if this is your first time through the show. Bringing B4 forward to be the new station in the spinoff is similar to what Jon has discussed with a sequel show to B5, set 1000 years down the road.

http://www.republibot.com/content/hidden-evolution-babylon-5

http://www.republibot.com/content/hidden-evolution-babylon-5-part-ii-%E2%80%9Cbabylon-prime%E2%80%9D


Max the Cat makes a brief appearance at about 10:45. I know you’ve all been wondering what was up with him.


Seriously, you do not want to get Chris started on the history of the Legion of Super Heroes, particularly in the post-Crisis/pre-Zero Hour era.


The film Predestination is an adaptation of the story “All You Zombies” by Robert Heinlein and is the most brain breaking time travel I’ve encountered yet.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predestination_(film)


Looper is up there in the running though. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Looper_(film)


Star Trek’s “Tomorrow is Yesterday” is a great episode, setting aside maybe the bit about the ship’s computer being reprogrammed to be more “feminine.” http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Tomorrow_is_Yesterday_(episode)


DS9’s “Past Tense” http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Past_Tense,_Part_I_(episode)


Star Trek: Discovery’s “Calypso” https://io9.gizmodo.com/short-treks-dives-far-into-the-future-of-star-trek-with-1830339940 Chris is probably wrong here, I can’t find any evidence that Aldis Hodge’s character is actually joining the regular show, sadly.


Legends of Tomorrow is the most bonkers show on television.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqRZJgA_IqM



El Ministerio del Tiempo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Ministerio_del_Tiempo


Travelers season 3 drops in March 2019. Yay! https://www.denofgeek.com/us/tv/travelers/271433/travelers-season-3-release-date-news-and-more


Dark season 2 is currently in production http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/dark/news/a860226/dark-season-2-opening-scene-filming-starts/


San Dimas High School Football Rules!! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_%26_Ted#Bill_&_Ted_Face_the_Music_(2020)


12 Monkeys - the film, not the series, is also a great time travel mind bender: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15s4Y9ffW_o


Time After Time: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080025/?ref_=nv_sr_1

And Somewhere in Time: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0081534/?ref_=nv_sr_2


TNG’s “Parallels” featuring Riker with an even more glorious beard than usual http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Parallels_(episode)


Credo, the board game of the Council of Nicea. Complete Jon and Chris-bait. https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/1304/credo-game-dueling-dogmas


Aleph Mattresses. Not our sponsor...yet. https://trustaleph.com/


World of Warcraft’s Draenei: https://wow.gamepedia.com/Draenei



Walkabout

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Episode 62: Walkabout (Season 3, Episode 18)

Synopsis: Dr. Franklin tries to find himself, Sheridan tests the Shadows’ weakness, and we meet the new Kosh.


https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0517720/?ref_=ttep_ep18

http://www.midwinter.com/lurk/countries/master/guide/062.html


Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinners_in_the_Hands_of_an_Angry_God


Four hundred Vulcans cried out...and were suddenly silenced. http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/The_Immunity_Syndrome_(episode)


The Vorlon Ulkesh appeared in the novel https://babylon5.fandom.com/wiki/To_Dream_in_the_City_of_Sorrows


Jeffrey Willerth was the performer in the Kosh suit(s) https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0929790/

He seems to have been primarily a producer (and an Associate to Producer on B5) more than an actor/puppeteer, which makes the subtlety of his performance even more noteworthy.


Let the record show that I (Chris) did not buy into a new miniatures game while in California.


Three cheers for John Mundy!


Foundationism: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundationism


Cleverman https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleverman


Erica Gimpel: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0319826/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_t12


JMS apparently does have a text on Foundationism. I’d love to get a look at that.


JMS on religion in science fiction: https://techtv.mit.edu/videos/3608-j-michael-straczynski-on-themes-of-religion-in-science-fiction



Interludes and Examinations

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Episode 61: Interludes and Examinations (Season 3, Episode 15)

Synopsis: In which Captain Sheridan convinces Kosh to take a more active role in the war, and Mr Morden returns.



“The Back Nine” is a golf reference. Somehow I (Chris) always thought it was referring to the last nine acres of farmland you had left to plow. See the things you learn listening to podcasts, kids?



The Gaim’s helmet resembles the helmet worn by Morpheus, Lord of Dreams in Neil Gaiman's Sandman

The Baader-Meinhof Group https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Army_Faction and Baader Meinhoff phenomenon (aka frequency illusion) https://science.howstuffworks.com/life/inside-the-mind/human-brain/baader-meinhof-phenomenon.htm



The Symbionese Liberation Army https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbionese_Liberation_Army (“Symbionese” referring to symbiosis)


Canadian plan for preemptory US invasion in 1921 https://bigthink.com/strange-maps/in-1921-canada-developed-a-secret-plan-to-invade-the-us

Homer Simpson’s spirit guide was a coyote voiced by Johnny Cash. But Chris was conflating that with Homer’s guardian angel, who appeared to him in a form of Colonel Klink. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sM28sWT2pvU


SUGAR. DIRT. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wv7flH9oUcg




Ship of Tears

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Episode 60: Ship of Tears (Season 3, Episode 14)

Synopsis: In which Bester seeks Sheridan’s help in stopping the Shadows and G’Kar is brought into the conspiracy.


http://www.midwinter.com/lurk/countries/master/guide/058.html

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0517688/?ref_=tt_ep_nx


What We Left Behind - the Deep Space 9 retrospective documentary https://ds9documentary.com/


"Third Person: Authoring and Exploring Vast Narratives” by Pat Harrigan https://www.amazon.com/Third-Person-Authoring-Exploring-Narratives/dp/0262533790/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1541628420&sr=8-2&keywords=third+person


"Henry Gale" from Lost - his real name was Ben Linus (portrayed by Michael Emerson https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0256237/?ref_=nv_sr_1) Good lord I hated him.


"Brain, brain, what is brain?" Jon dropped some Spock's Brain on us and I didn't catch it. Not sure who is the more shameful in this situation.


Screen Memories - https://mysteriousuniverse.org/2016/01/the-messengers-ufos-owls-and-synchronicity/


There are many different types of possible subspecies of Grey aliens

http://hybridsrising.com/Hybrid-Project/Hybrids-Rising-The-Greys-HP.html



A Late Delivery From Avalon

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Episode 58: A Late Delivery from Avalon (Season 3, Episode 13)

Synopsis: In which a man claiming to be Arthur, King of the Britons, arrives on Babylon 5


http://www.midwinter.com/lurk/countries/master/guide/057.html

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0517617/?ref_=tt_ep_nx


Note: This episode was intended to go after “Sic Transit Vir,” which we will examine next week.


There are a lot of Monty Python and the Holy Grail references here, I’m not going to link them all. Same for the references to Arthurian lore and historical study.


I will however strongly recommend the “Arthur Dies at the End” series of retellings of Mallory’s “Le Mort de Arthur” by my (Chris) friend Jeffrey Wikstrom. Very funny and irreverent. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00LAKWHH8/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1


Do not get Chris started on stirrups in the movie Gladiator.


The “Camelot 3000: comics series: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camelot_3000


MASH’s finale, “Farewell, Amen and Amen” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodbye,_Farewell_and_Amen


Logan’s Run https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logan%27s_Run_(film)


The postal worker was portrayed by Michael Fagan. I was confused because he’s listed with a name in the credits, “Emmet Farquaha,” but I don’t think the name was ever spoken in the episode.


Attentive listeners may recall that the film Apollo 13 was beat out for a Hugo award in 1996 by the Babylon 5 season 2 episode “The Coming of Shadows.” JMS was certainly aware of the film.


The board game “This War of Mine” is a harrowing experience. Cannot recommend it enough. https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/188920/war-mine-board-game



Shoeless Joe: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoeless_Joe_Jackson



Ceremonies of Light and Dark

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Episode 57: Ceremonies of Light and Dark (Season 3, Episode 11)

Synopsis: In which the dust settles from the past few episodes and everyone gets spiffy new uniforms!


https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0517636/?ref_=tt_ep_nx

http://www.midwinter.com/lurk/countries/master/guide/055.html


Domo Arigato https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uc6f_2nPSX8


Halfway there: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDK9QqIzhwk


Suebi and Etruscans and Greeks, oh my! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_citizenship


In Our Time - the best history/science/culture/everything podcast out there: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006qykl/episodes/player


“People with terrible ideas often think they’re going to work.” - https://www.ilinxilinx.com/nameofthepod/


The Dollop podcast https://www.dolloppodcast.com/


Don Stroud: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0835144/?ref_=tt_cl_t13


“Tomorrow is Yesterday” is the classic Star Trek episode where the computer keeps referring to Kirk as “dear.” http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Tomorrow_is_Yesterday_(episode)


“Are we the baddies?” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hn1VxaMEjRU


Buck Rogers uniform:


An aside, but Gil Gerard (Buck) and Felix Silla (Twiki) are still friends and hang out. That feels nice.


https://vitalvegas.com/this-was-easily-our-weirdest-vegas-celebrity-sighting-ever/


And in conclusion YOGA PANTS ARE NOT PANTS. Come at me, haters!



Severed Dreams

Episode 56: Severed Dreams (Season 3, Episode 10)

Synopsis: In which everything hits the fan.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0517686/?ref_=tt_ep_nx

http://www.midwinter.com/lurk/countries/master/guide/054.html


Other Hugo nominees in 1997 for “Best Dramatic Presentation” were Star Trek: First Contact, DS9 “Trials and Tribble-ations,” Mars Attacks and Independence Day.


Max was particularly vocal this episode. Enjoy his dulcet tones.


Robert Foxworth’s treason is discussed by JMS in length on the Lurker’s Guide page, linked above.

Point of No Return

Episode 55: Point of No Return (Season 3, Episode 9)

Synopsis: In which the crisis with the Nightwatch comes to a head and Londo and Vir learn their destinies.


https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0517679/?ref_=tt_ep_nx

http://www.midwinter.com/lurk/countries/master/guide/053.html


The legendary Majel Barrett: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000854/?ref_=tt_cl_t12


Before her death, Majel Barrett’s voice was recorded phonetically so it is still possible we may get her voice for our phones! https://news.avclub.com/the-late-majel-barrett-might-still-voice-the-computer-o-1798251733


Star Trek Continues: https://www.youtube.com/user/StarTrekContinues


Emmanuel Goldstein and the Two Minutes of Hate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4zYlOU7Fpk


Messages from Earth

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Episode 54: Messages from Earth (Season 3, Episode 8)

Synopsis: In which Sheridan must take drastic action to keep President Clark from obtaining a shadow ship, and the Nightwatch steps up their operation on the station.


https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0517668/?ref_=tt_ep_pr

http://www.midwinter.com/lurk/countries/master/guide/052.html


Stove Top? I’M STAYING! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3T1dvaEY9CQ


The Ultra Menace Missile! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZAuNqHSEQk


The Shobijin from Godzilla vs Mothra: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stavnP7kcGU


Night Boat! The Crime Solving boat! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoV1-fsFCmw


The Reflex Gun! Another Star Blazers reference! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAA3bLM3IGA


Lyanna Mormont, baddest badass in the Seven Kingdoms. It is known. http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Lyanna_Mormont


Exogenesis

Episode 53: Exogenesis (Season 3, Episode 7)

Synopsis: In which a creepy bug/parasite thing appears to be possessing people and Ivanova tests Corwin’s loyalty.


https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0517649/?ref_=tt_ep_nx

http://www.midwinter.com/lurk/countries/master/guide/051.html


Samuel Taylor Coleridge was interrupted while writing Kulba Khan by “the stranger from Porlock” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Person_from_Porlock


Which led to Rush’s “Xanadu,” possibly my (Chris) favorite of their songs. If you’ve never heard it, can tolerate prog rock, and have eleven-odd minutes to spare check it out. I’ll be over here rocking out hard:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEuOoMprDqg


Aubrey Morris, this episode’s Duncan, appears as the Roman emperor in this episode of The Prisoner - “The Dance of the Dead.” Once you’ve watched that Rush video spend 40 minutes checking this out too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaCVzUy3KP4


Fantasy recasting of Marcus:

Chris - David Tennant: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0855039/?ref_=nv_sr_1

Jon - Richie Campbell: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1951953/?ref_=tt_cl_t2


Here’s our first pass at the prestige 10 episode breakdown for season 2. Much of this didn’t survive contact with the discussion we have in this episode but it was a starting point.

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The zones of total exclusion thing came from the French Zone Rouge, an area of France entirely incapable of supporting life because of damage from World War 1. Details: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zone_Rouge

And of course there’s a TV Tropes page as well (because of course there is). https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ForbiddenZone



Dust to Dust

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Jon’s outline for prestige season 1:

1

A   Narn-Centauri War (Midnight)

B   Ivanova's Family (Purple)

2

A   G'kar Black Rose / Londo assassin (Purple / Parliament)

B   Sinclair and Sakai (Parliament)

3

A   Religion Festival (Parliament)

B   Garibaldi and Mars (Lianna) (Survivors)

4

A   Deathwalker (Deathwalker)

B   Franklin and the Children of Time (Believers)

5

A   Sigma 957 (Parliament)

B   Talia and Kosh (Deathwalker)

6

A   Morden (Signs)

B   Sinclair kidnapped (Sky)

7

A   Babylon 4 (BB)

B   Ivanova and Koslov (TKO)

8

A   Epsilon 3 / Draal, pt. 1 (Voice1)

B   Garibaldi and Mars, election of Santiago (Voice1)

9

A   Epsilon 3 / Draal, pt. 2 (Voice2)

B   Sinclair and Earthforce (Voice2)

10 = Chrysalis, as filmed



Jason Morningstar - Fiasco is really a terrific game! http://bullypulpitgames.com/about/jason/

Jon & Tracy’s excellent podcast on gaming and education, Game Level Learn: http://www.gamelevellearn.com/podcast/



Voices of Authority

Episode 51: Voices of Authority (Season 3, Episode 5)

Synopsis: In which Marcus and Ivanova search for allies in the war against the Shadows, and the Clark administration attempts to tighten its grip on the station.

 

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0517719/?ref_=tt_ep_nx

http://www.midwinter.com/lurk/countries/master/guide/049.html

 

The Seraphs’ ship from the 1978 Battlestar Galactica: https://wikivisually.com/wiki/Seraphs_(Battlestar_Galactica)

 

Balok from Star Trek’s “The Corbormite Maneuver” http://www.startrek.com/database_article/balok

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Marie Crane, the candidate who lost to incumbent Luis Santiago in the 2258 election: http://babylon5.wikia.com/wiki/Marie_Crane

 

Shari Shattuck: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0789449/?ref_=tt_cl_t13

.38 Special’s “Caught Up In You” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zg21Rkew874

A Day In The Strife

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Synopsis: In which G’Kar must make difficult decisions regarding the resistance on the homeworld and an alien probe makes a generous offer.

 

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0517615/?ref_=tt_ep_nx

http://www.midwinter.com/lurk/countries/master/guide/047.html

 

Vidkun Quisling, head of the Norwegian government during Nazi occupation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vidkun_Quisling

 

Cixin Liu’s “The Dark Forest”

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/23168817-the-dark-forest

 

And believe not or not, there’s a good explanation of the “chain of suspicion” to be found on Quora: https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-Dark-Forest-Theory-of-the-cosmos-which-is-a-response-to-the-Fermi-Paradox

 

The Culture: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Culture

 

The possible dangers of the METI project: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/28/magazine/greetings-et-please-dont-murder-us.html

 

Stephen Macht: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0532685/?ref_=tt_cl_t12

Convictions

Episode 48: Convictions (Season 3, Episode 2)

Synopsis: In which a mad bomber terrorizes the station and a number of pilgrims begin to arrive.

 

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0517641/?ref_=ttep_ep2

http://www.midwinter.com/lurk/countries/master/guide/046.html

 

Mode Training is a philosophical/quasi-religious doctrine from David Gerrold’s “War Against the Chtorr” series. It is intended to let individuals move beyond human psychologies. The founder of the movement writes under the pseudonym of “Solomon Short.” Make of that what you will.

 

Brother Theo’s monastery is New Melleray Abbey in Iowa. The monks there are Cistercians or Trappists, who make a darn fine jam. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Melleray_Abbey

 

Gene Roddenberry was indeed an ardent humanist and disdainful of religion. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene_Roddenberry#Religious_views

 

Somehow we had a whole conversation about religion and spirituality in sci-fi without mentioning either incarnation of Battlestar Galactica. You should probably be listening to a better podcast.

 

In the 13th century Pope Innocent IV sent a letter to Guyuk, Khan of the Mongols, telling him that the Mongol forces should stop attacking Christendom and maybe even convert to Christianity.

Guyuk’s response to the Pope: "You must say with a sincere heart ‘We will be your subjects; we will give you our strength.’ You must in person come with your kings, all together, without exception, to render us service and pay us homage. Only then will we acknowledge your submission. And if you do not follow the order of God, and go against our orders, we will know you as our enemy."

https://ballandalus.wordpress.com/2015/06/01/mongol-papal-encounter-letter-exchange-between-pope-innocent-iv-and-guyuk-khan-in-1245-1246/

 

Babylon 5 Season 3 intro: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9EbGd1AlMg

 

Space: 1999 Season One theme. Mixing 2001’s orchestral epicness with funk electric guitar that for some reason actually works: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLhdY6_juDk

Season Two leans fully into the disco horns. Whether it “works” is best left as an exercise for the reader: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsmefY94E_0

 

Matters of Honor

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Episode 47: Matters of Honor (Season 3, Episode 1)

Synopsis: In which the army of light gains a new ally and a totally awesome new ship, and dark alliances are revealed.

 

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0517666/?ref_=ttep_ep1

http://www.midwinter.com/lurk/countries/master/guide/045.html

“Welcome back, your dreams were ticket out” is from the theme song to the classic sitcom Welcome Back Kotter.

“And they told two friends. And so on, and so on, and so on…” https://www.retroist.com/2015/12/14/and-they-told-two-friends-how-faberge-organics-shampoo-explained-virality/

At less than a minute into season 3, Jon and Chris reveal they are old as DIRT.

Strider/Aragorn (John Hurt) meets the Hobbits at the Prancing Pony, from Ralph Bakshi’s Lord of the Rings: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orLz433Cf-g

Ambassador Fox (Gene Lyons) from “A Taste of Armageddon”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfqIpf987vM

Season 2 Wrap Up!

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Episode 46: Season 2 Wrap-Up

This episode was recorded in the lobby of our hotel (because the godforsaken Hilton only saw fit to give me one chair in my room so we had to look elsewhere, and there was a 20,000 person game convention AND a Pride parade going on outside with about the same attendance, plus some kind of investment/retirement/MLM fleecing seminar in the hotel...some days you just can’t get rid of a bomb!) so there’s some echo and noise from people walking by. I’ve done what I can with it but obviously it’s not as clean as a regular recording.

 

 

Jon’s top 5 episodes:

5) Acts of Sacrifice

4) And Now for a Word

3) In the Shadow of Z’ha’dum

2) The Long, Twilight Struggle

1) The Coming of Shadows

 

Chris’s top 5 episodes:

5) Knives

4) And Now for a Word

3) In the Shadow of Z’ha’dum

2) The Coming of Shadows

1) The Long, Twilight Struggle

 

Jon’s bottom 3 episodes:

3) Come the Inquisitor

2) The Long Dark

1) GROPOS

 

Chris’s bottom 3 episodes:

3) The Long Dark

2) Geometry of Shadows

1) Soul Mates

 

The discussion of the network forcing JMS to include a hotshot pilot (Warren Keffer) is apparently from the DVD commentary to “The Fall of Night.” http://babylon5.wikia.com/wiki/Warren_Keffer

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The Fall of Night

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Episode 45: The Fall of Night (Season 2, Episode 22)

Synopsis: In which Earthdome takes sides in the Centauri/Narn conflict, Zack falls deeper into the Night Watch, and Kosh is revealed.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0517703/?ref_=ttep_ep22

http://www.midwinter.com/lurk/countries/master/guide/044.html

 

A very brief overview of the Sudentenland crisis and Chamberlain’s Appeasement policy. Again, entire careers could be spent on this one issue, but here’s a very high level thumbnail: http://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/higher/history/roadwar/munich/revision/1/

 

Charles Lindbergh’s America First Committee was ostensibly focused on keeping America out of the war, but Lindbergh himself and others were suspected of being Nazi sympathizers. Certainly his racial and anti-Semitic views were in line with a lot of what the Nazis were selling at the time. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America_First_Committee